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#358506 - 2010-05-11 23:25:23 Re: What does this mean? [Re: pnattmbtc]
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Registered: 2005-04-26
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Originally Posted By: MM
Ok, thanks, I never knew that before. But when you wrote: "The writers of Scripture were just humans like the rest of us too.", actually, that is not all that correct.


Who of the Scripture writers were not human?

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Moses is now in heaven, so even though he was human, he is now a spiritual being.


You said it what I wrote was not correct, that the writers of Scriptures were human. You appear to be wanting to give Moses as a counter-example, but you point out that he was human, so that's doesn't work. So who of the Scripture writers was not human?

Also, is it your belief that Moses is not presently a human being?
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#358614 - 2010-05-12 12:42:31 Re: What does this mean? [Re: John317]
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Registered: 2008-02-12
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Loc: California
John wrote: "No doubt you mean she was not inspired by God or that she did not receive visions from God. But she was inspired by God and she did receive many visions from God."

John, your attitude is one that is very childish. Muslims believe that same thing about their prophet as you do, so what make Mohammad different than EGW? Or Paul for that matter?

Just because YOU say so does NOT make it true. I have an idea--why don't we go to the writings of those who we all agree are inspired by God and make this a test for everyone else? How inventive is this? I can't believe no one thought of this before???

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#359152 - 2010-05-14 20:39:18 Re: What does this mean? [Re: Dr. Rich]
RLH Online   content
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Registered: 2009-07-07
Posts: 19005
Loc: North Carolina
Originally Posted By: Dr. Rich
John wrote: "No doubt you mean she was not inspired by God or that she did not receive visions from God. But she was inspired by God and she did receive many visions from God."

John, your attitude is one that is very childish. Muslims believe that same thing about their prophet as you do, so what make Mohammad different than EGW? Or Paul for that matter?

Just because YOU say so does NOT make it true.



And you think your say so does????!

John can back up his beliefs with scripture. The only way scripture backs up your dogma, is if it is drastically skewed. I've seen how you add things that aren't there, and ignore things that are.

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#359167 - 2010-05-14 21:15:36 Re: What does this mean? [Re: Dr. Rich]
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Registered: 2005-11-13
Posts: 31293
Loc: near Loma Linda,CA
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John 3:17: "No doubt you mean she was not inspired by God or that she did not receive visions from God. But she was inspired by God and she did receive many visions from God.[quote]

[quote]Dr. Rich: John, your attitude is one that is very childish. Muslims believe that same thing about their prophet as you do, so what make Mohammad different than EGW? Or Paul for that matter?


I've read the Koran many times, and believe me, it's not inspired by the God who inspired the Bible and Ellen White.

Some time we should sit down and go over the differences between the Koran, the Bible, and the Spirit of prophecy. Also look at the similarities between the Bible and the SOP.

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Dr. Rich: Just because YOU say so does NOT make it true.


Of course not. I'm not suggesting you or anyone else should simply take my word for what Ellen White said or for who she was. I urge everyone to study the Bible and study her life and writings for himself and make up his own mind. I can't accept Christ for anyone, and in the same way, it doesn't do anyone else any good for me to believe in Ellen White. We all have to decide what we believe and who we will obey.

But what I am saying, Dr. Rich, is that the SDA church accepts Ellen White as a genuine prophet of God, and I do too. That is what I've decided after many years of reading her and studying her life and prophetic ministry. I have no doubt she was genuine, the real article. I know you've decided to reject her. That's your perogative, but you are in the SDA church, and it accepts Ellen White as a true prophet of God. It doesn't accept Mohammad. And I thought you were a Seventh-day Adventist, so I am surprised that you would ask such a question about Mohammad. It would be different if you were Muslim, but you tell people you are SDA.

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Dr. Rich: I have an idea--why don't we go to the writings of those who we all agree are inspired by God and make this a test for everyone else? How inventive is this? I can't believe no one thought of this before???


My friend, I'm not going to let you or anyone else cheat me of the WHOLE WORD OF GOD, and that includes the writings of the great Apostle Paul. So I would refuse not to quote Paul, Hebrews, Mark, Luke, James, Jude, 1 and 2 Peter. But I would happy to sit down with you over a wonderful meal while we look at all these questions. In fact, I look forward to it. I know we will have a great discussion over delicious food just like we did the last time. We could talk (and eat!) for 5 or 6 hours. :-)

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#359173 - 2010-05-14 21:28:42 Re: What does this mean? [Re: John317]
RLH Online   content
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Registered: 2009-07-07
Posts: 19005
Loc: North Carolina
Can you eat for five hours John?

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#359218 - 2010-05-15 08:17:19 Re: What does this mean? [Re: Dr. Rich]
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Registered: 2005-12-26
Posts: 7752
Loc: Ohio
"Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven."

"Believe his prophets and so shall you prosper."


Mohammed is a prophet. A false one.
EGW is a true prohpet - it is easy to establish biblically.


"A rich man may be wise in his own eyes, but a poor man who has discernment sees through him."

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#359237 - 2010-05-15 09:37:36 Re: What does this mean? [Re: olger]
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Registered: 2009-07-07
Posts: 19005
Loc: North Carolina
Amen!

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#359317 - 2010-05-15 15:39:14 Re: What does this mean? [Re: RLH]
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Registered: 2005-12-26
Posts: 7752
Loc: Ohio
Thanks BOB!
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