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#368618 - 2010-06-18 23:57:22 Re: American Muslim Calls Mass Murderer a Role Model [Re: Gordon1]
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The regime in power now is going out of it's way not to call any muslim a terrorist. In fact they have even removed the phrase "muslim extremist" from all government language. When the muslim extremist (terrorist) killed all those people at the military base, they tried to say: "Oh this was just an isolated incident. Not muslim extremism."

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#368623 - 2010-06-19 00:15:25 Re: American Muslim Calls Mass Murderer a Role Model [Re: RLH]
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Originally Posted By: Gordon1
Because there is no evidence linking 9/11 to Iraq or Afghanistan.


Since when have you been privy to confidential evidence from the United States national security offices (i.e., FBI, CIA) given to the President of the US?
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#368635 - 2010-06-19 01:22:06 Re: American Muslim Calls Mass Murderer a Role Model [Re: rudywoofs]
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Countries with its borders are man made and man has also invented the means(war) to protect these countries they created. God does not condone war but he does use man made devices to achieve His own plan. That does not mean he approves of the methods used. Less greed less war. The war on "terror" was just an excuse to gain world domination and control of resource. Ghandi came a lot closer to what Jesus was talking about.

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#368646 - 2010-06-19 05:51:15 Re: American Muslim Calls Mass Murderer a Role Model [Re: SivartM]
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SivartM: Why is it that Christians are supposed to call wrong things wrong... except fighting.


I don't think that's true. If a Christian believes that all fighting is wrong, he's free to make his case. I wouldn't tell him not to express his convictions.

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SivartM: We're supposed to speak against slavery, abortion, adultery, etc., but when it comes to fighting, oh, no, we can't say that it's wrong (never mind that Jesus said to love your enemies).


Who is telling you or anyone else that you can't say fighting is wrong?

Whether you are right to say that ALL fighting is wrong is another story-- but that is not the same as saying you can't express what you believe.

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SivartM: By the way, governments allow or have allowed slavery, abortion, etc. And some have outlawed Christianity. So... maybe, just maybe, we're supposed to obey God first.


Yes, and this has been stated already on this thread.

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SivartM: So we should do things like they did in the Old Testament, or should we do what Jesus said and love our enemies? Should we use the Old Testament to interpret Jesus or Jesus to interpret the Old Testament?


Individual Christians should do what Jesus said and love their enemies. We're commanded to forgive the evils that people to do us, but that doesn't mean that forgiven people don't have to pay the the price of their evil choices.

You can't expect worldly governments to act as an individual Christian is supposed to act. For instance, what would have happened if England or the USA had merely forgiven Hitler or the Japanese for their invasions into other people's territories?

If that had happened, there's an excellent probability that today you and millions of others would be under the power of either the Japanese or the Nazis.

Governments have a responsibility to enforce laws and protect its citizens.

The world is a dangerous place, and governments must deal with this hard reality.

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