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#342311 - 2010-03-08 17:58:16 Re: Adventists and Islam [Re: Dr. Rich]
LifeHiscost Online   usa


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I am so pleased to see some seeing the Muslims as somebody to carry the gospel to. There is a program on satellite TV entitled, "Islam Reconsidered" that probably has an internet or web address and might be available by googling their logo.

It is not easy for me to see the Muslims in a kindly light, particularly after seeing the horrible recent activity some of them accomplish, as instructed in the Quran to do. However I don't see how we can ignore Jesus express instructions to those who profess His name, without denying the Christ in practice.

"....for the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost.”"Luke 19:10 NKJV

OTOH when not too distant past history reveals, organized religion in the name of Christ, carried slaughter to uncounted
multitudes, perhaps we are seeing some of the principles of the universe being fulfilled.

"They sow the wind, And reap the whirlwind." Hosea 8:7 NKJV
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#342314 - 2010-03-08 18:04:26 Re: Adventists and Islam [Re: LifeHiscost]
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Originally Posted By: LHC
It is not easy for me to see the Muslims in a kindly light, particularly after seeing the horrible recent activity some of them accomplish, as instructed in the Quran to do.


But those poor people just didn't understand what they were doing.. cutting off people's heads..well, that was just a fluke - we shouldn't remember that.
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#342380 - 2010-03-08 19:59:05 Re: Adventists and Islam [Re: rudywoofs]
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What is stereotyping? Applying the negative actions of a few members of a group to all members of that group if the group is perceived as being different from oneself. We ascribe the negative actions of people like us to the individuals, and the negative actions of people unlike us to the group. The people in America who perpetrate unthinkable abuse on their children are bad people. The Muslims who cut off heads are Muslims.
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#342384 - 2010-03-08 20:11:43 Re: Adventists and Islam [Re: Bravus]
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Yes, those poor misunderstood Muslims. You'll notice I said it was a "fluke"...
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#342387 - 2010-03-08 20:13:51 Re: Adventists and Islam [Re: oldsailor29]
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Originally Posted By: oldsailor29
Originally Posted By: dgrimm60
OLDSAILOR29

Arabs which are mostly Muslims claim that they
are decendents of ABRAHAM

dgrimm60



An empty claim which cannot be proven.


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I got this from muslimvoices.org
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In the Old Testament Abraham cannot have a child with his wife, Sarah. So, she gives him her handmaiden Hagar. With Hagar Abraham has a child, a son, Ishmael.

Eventually, though, in her old age Sarah conceives of a child with divine help. That child is Isaac. After the birth of her son, Sarah forces Abraham to send Hagar and Ishmael away from their home. Although, in the Qur’an, it is Allah who tells Abraham to send Hagar and Ishmael into the desert.

While some Jews and Christians believe they are descendents of Isaac, Muslims believe they are the inheritors of Ishmael’s legacy – that they, along with Jews and Christians, are the “children of Abraham”.

And they believe it was Ishmael, not Isaac, Abraham almost sacrificed to God. The sparing of Ishmael’s life is celebrated with the festival Eid ul-Adha. When God spared Ishmael, the boy was replaced with a ram – it is because of this Muslims make animal sacrifices during the festival.

Ishmael is highly regarded in Islam for his goodness and wisdom. After wandering in the desert with his mother – Hagar’s search for water is reenacted during the Hajj each year – they settled in Mecca. There it is believed Ishmael built the Ka’aba with Abraham.

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#342512 - 2010-03-09 08:55:12 Re: Adventists and Islam [Re: rudywoofs]
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Originally Posted By: rudywoofs
Originally Posted By: Bravus
"...I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some" ...unless they were too different or it was too expensive.


Oh, by all means, let us spread the gospel to the Muslims no matter how much it costs. They are such wonderful people.


“People who are well do not need a doctor, but only those who are sick.
13 Go and find out what is meant by the scripture that says: ‘It is kindness that I want, not animal sacrifices.’ I have not come to call respectable people, but outcasts.” Mt 9:12-13 GNT

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#342568 - 2010-03-09 13:19:53 Re: Adventists and Islam [Re: Amelia]
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Amelia very good post, and I wouldn't say that it was off topic, I'd say it was pretty much on topic.

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#342576 - 2010-03-09 13:40:35 Re: Adventists and Islam [Re: pkrause]
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Originally Posted By: GerryCabalo
“People who are well do not need a doctor, but only those who are sick.
13 Go and find out what is meant by the scripture that says: ‘It is kindness that I want, not animal sacrifices.’ I have not come to call respectable people, but outcasts.” Mt 9:12-13 GNT


Muslims aren't sick or outcasts. Well, they DO get kidney stones. But they know about Jesus. And the SDA converts are such sweet people. They go by what the Bible says instead of the Quran.
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#342579 - 2010-03-09 13:48:54 Re: Adventists and Islam [Re: rudywoofs]
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Originally Posted By: rudywoofs
Originally Posted By: GerryCabalo
“People who are well do not need a doctor, but only those who are sick.
13 Go and find out what is meant by the scripture that says: ‘It is kindness that I want, not animal sacrifices.’ I have not come to call respectable people, but outcasts.” Mt 9:12-13 GNT


Muslims aren't sick or outcasts. Well, they DO get kidney stones. But they know about Jesus. And the SDA converts are such sweet people. They go by what the Bible says instead of the Quran.


What do you mean by that, Pam?
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#342584 - 2010-03-09 13:56:34 Re: Adventists and Islam [Re: Gail]
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Muslims have a lot of kidney stones due to the sand in their food. I worked for the first US Transplant Team that went over to King Faisal Hospital to set up their Kidney Transplant Program. The Muslims know about Jesus.

So, what did you think I meant, Gail?
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