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And don’t jump all over them every time they do or say something you don’t agree with
– even when it seems that they are strong on opinions but weak in the faith department.
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#342104 - 2010-03-07 14:48:56 Re: Adventists and Islam [Re: oldsailor29]
pkrause Registered: 2000-03-24 Posts: 27327 Loc: Deltona,FL,USA	Originally Posted By: oldsailor29 Originally Posted By: dgrimm60 OLDSAILOR29 Arabs which are mostly Muslims claim that they are decendents of ABRAHAM dgrimm60 An empty claim which cannot be proven. Are you positive oldsailor? Because I believe that. And according to John McGhee and quite a few others that have worked with Muslims and for them say this is true. Now as far as Islam is concerned that's what they have claimed as there religion around the time of Muhammed! But I also believe that Ishmael and Esau's descendants are who we know today as Arabs! I will investagate this alittle more. pk _________________________ phk "And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country." John F Kennedy "Government is the enemy, until you need a friend". Bill Cohen Many people consider the things government does for them to be social progress but they regard the things government does for others as socialism. Earl Warren
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#342105 - 2010-03-07 14:50:45 Re: Adventists and Islam [Re: pkrause]
Gail Mom to lots of chickies Registered: 2002-12-09 Posts: 23124 Loc: Buon giorno, Principessa	Pam, I'm so sorry about your experience! How horrible! :( _________________________ Gail A heart set on love will do no wrong- Confucius And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. Isaiah 32:17
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#342197 - 2010-03-08 02:21:55 Re: Adventists and Islam [Re: abelisle]
TWNolan Getting the hang of posting Registered: 2010-01-31 Posts: 84 Loc: North Dakota, USA	Originally Posted By: abelisle Something to worry about in light of this article is the spotlight that could be put on Adventists as friends of Muslims - not a very good position to be in Islamicphobic America. What a convenient prop for the instigation of religious persecution. We must be " wise as serpents" but friendly "as doves" Alex Amen _________________________ there is no try
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#342198 - 2010-03-08 02:27:18 Re: Adventists and Islam [Re: oldsailor29]
TWNolan Getting the hang of posting Registered: 2010-01-31 Posts: 84 Loc: North Dakota, USA	Originally Posted By: oldsailor29 Originally Posted By: dgrimm60 OLDSAILOR29 Arabs which are mostly Muslims claim that they are decendents of ABRAHAM dgrimm60 An empty claim which cannot be proven. and the Muslims can say the same thing about the Jews. All of which will get NO ONE anywhere _________________________ there is no try
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#342203 - 2010-03-08 04:21:36 Re: Adventists and Islam [Re: TWNolan]
oldsailor29 Registered: 2009-05-01 Posts: 1035 Loc: Lancaster, MA	Originally Posted By: dgrimm60 OLDSAILOR29 Arabs which are mostly Muslims claim that they are decendents of ABRAHAM dgrimm60 Originally Posted By: oldsailor29 An empty claim which cannot be proven. Originally Posted By: TWNolan and the Muslims can say the same thing about the Jews. All of which will get NO ONE anywhere And therefore it means nothing. But I would be willing to say that we all descended from Noah, and leave it at that. _________________________ Prs God, frm whm blssngs flw http://www.zoelifestyle.com/jmccall
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#342214 - 2010-03-08 07:41:26 Re: Adventists and Islam [Re: oldsailor29]
olger Registered: 2005-12-26 Posts: 7716 Loc: Ohio	Sometimes I think oldsailor says things just to get a rise out of people. oG _________________________ "Please don't feed the drama queens.."
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#342245 - 2010-03-08 11:59:00 Re: Adventists and Islam [Re: abelisle]
LifeHiscost Registered: 2003-06-14 Posts: 7861 Loc: Western United States	Originally Posted By: abelisle Something to worry about in light of this article is the spotlight that could be put on Adventists as friends of Muslims - not a very good position to be in Islamicphobic America. What a convenient prop for the instigation of religious persecution. We must be " wise as serpents" but friendly "as doves" Alex I shared the article with someone close, who happens to be a Christian of a different faith(other than Adventist). There immediate response was somewhat alluding to making a union with the devil. I asked the question, do you believe the muslim is lost who is not a believer in Jesus as Lord. The answer was yes, when they were asked to restrict their answer to a yes or a no. I asked them then, did they believe this Word. "...for the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost.”" Luke 19:10 NKJV I did not voice the next question which would have been, "How would you propose we go about working with Jesus to accomplish that end re: the Muslim?". I did suggest the President of a major Christian faith would seem to be a very appropriate individual to visit a high ranking Shiek, especially when there are a number of mutual practical living attributes of both religions that would seem to enhance making friends, which I believe is one of Jesus' favorite, and in my opinion, best ways of reaching the heart. Do you have thoughts on this? Blessings! _________________________ Lift Jesus up!!
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#342246 - 2010-03-08 12:11:55 Re: Adventists and Islam [Re: rudywoofs]
LifeHiscost Registered: 2003-06-14 Posts: 7861 Loc: Western United States	Originally Posted By: rudywoofs My question for the sheik who had the dream about Adventists...why didn't the sheik come over here to visit the GC and visit with Adventists, instead of GC officials going over to see him? Who could better afford the trip? It would seem to me the one most interested in influencing the other for the sake of winning a person to receive Jesus as Lord, would be provided by the King with enough to make the trip. _________________________ Lift Jesus up!!
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#342247 - 2010-03-08 12:24:11 Re: Adventists and Islam [Re: LifeHiscost]
pkrause Registered: 2000-03-24 Posts: 27327 Loc: Deltona,FL,USA	Originally Posted By: LifeHiscost Originally Posted By: abelisle Something to worry about in light of this article is the spotlight that could be put on Adventists as friends of Muslims - not a very good position to be in Islamicphobic America. What a convenient prop for the instigation of religious persecution. We must be " wise as serpents" but friendly "as doves" Alex I shared the article with someone close, who happens to be a Christian of a different faith(other than Adventist). There immediate response was somewhat alluding to making a union with the devil. I asked the question, do you believe the muslim is lost who is not a believer in Jesus as Lord. The answer was yes, when they were asked to restrict their answer to a yes or a no. I asked them then, did they believe this Word. "...for the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost.”" Luke 19:10 NKJV I did not voice the next question which would have been, "How would you propose we go about working with Jesus to accomplish that end re: the Muslim?". I did suggest the President of a major Christian faith would seem to be a very appropriate individual to visit a high ranking Shiek, especially when there are a number of mutual practical living attributes of both religions that would seem to enhance making friends, which I believe is one of Jesus' favorite, and in my opinion, best ways of reaching the heart. Do you have thoughts on this? Blessings! Very interesting points LHC pk _________________________ phk "And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country." John F Kennedy "Government is the enemy, until you need a friend". Bill Cohen Many people consider the things government does for them to be social progress but they regard the things government does for others as socialism. Earl Warren
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#342248 - 2010-03-08 12:29:58 Re: Adventists and Islam [Re: Gail]
LifeHiscost Registered: 2003-06-14 Posts: 7861 Loc: Western United States	Originally Posted By: Gail I have a Muslim friend who is against violence, as many are. We have peaceful, honest discussions. In Genesis 16:12 the Lord predicts that Ishmael would be a "wild man," and "his hand will be against every man". It also says that "... he shall dwell (prosper) in the presence of all his brethren." It's one thing to know this, but should we dwell on it and become discouraged by it? God still reigns! I have a natural tendency to side with Rudy on the side of fear. OTOH;...for the sake of fulfilling the reason why I choose to be a disciple of Christ____ "There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love." 1 John 4:18 NASB Blessings! _________________________ Lift Jesus up!!
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