#341673 - 2010-03-06 14:33:00
Re: Adventists and Islam
[Re: teresaq(sda)]
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My question for the sheik who had the dream about Adventists...why didn't the sheik come over *here* to visit the GC and visit with Adventists, instead of GC officials going over to see *him*? Who could better afford the trip?
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There's no point in burying a hatchet if you're going to put up a marker on the site. ~ Sydney Harris
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#341674 - 2010-03-06 14:34:30
Re: Adventists and Islam
[Re: rudywoofs]
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My question for the sheik who had the dream about Adventists...why didn't the sheik come over *here* to visit the GC and visit with Adventists, instead of GC officials going over to see *him*? Who could better afford the trip? Very good point rudywoofs. pk
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"And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country." John F Kennedy
"Government is the enemy, until you need a friend". Bill Cohen
Many people consider the things government does for them to be social progress but they regard the things government does for others as socialism. Earl Warren
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#341675 - 2010-03-06 14:35:23
Re: Adventists and Islam
[Re: teresaq(sda)]
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There was a letter from Johnson in the last online Review, but it was on the other computer, which decided not to boot yesterday afternoon. Maybe you could find it.
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#341690 - 2010-03-06 15:03:13
Re: Adventists and Islam
[Re: abelisle]
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Something to worry about in light of this article is the spotlight that could be put on Adventists as friends of Muslims - not a very good position to be in Islamicphobic America. What a convenient prop for the instigation of religious persecution. We must be " wise as serpents" but friendly "as doves"
Alex
Good advice, however, persecution is guaranteed regardless for endtime believers who will refuse homage to the beast or its image.
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#341696 - 2010-03-06 15:23:59
Re: Adventists and Islam
[Re: abelisle]
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Something to worry about in light of this article is the spotlight that could be put on Adventists as friends of Muslims - not a very good position to be in Islamicphobic America. What a convenient prop for the instigation of religious persecution. We must be " wise as serpents" but friendly "as doves"
Alex Why worry about that until America becomes Islamicphobic?"Sufficient for the day is it's own trouble." Or, as my grandfather used to say,"Why worry, it may never happen?"
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#341701 - 2010-03-06 15:35:50
Re: Adventists and Islam
[Re: Gerry Cabalo]
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To be perfectly honest, Muslims frighten me. I don't want to reach out to Muslims. I think there *should* be profiling of people getting on planes or other public transportation.
I remember when 9/11 happened and two Muslims who owned a convenience store were whooping and clapping and laughing about it. A CocaCola delivery truck came to give them their order of Coca Cola products. He saw them whooping it up and took out all Coke products and left them without their order. I think people are being lulled into forgetting about 9/11.
If I see an obviously Muslim person in a store or on the street, I will deliberately avoid them like the plague. I know some of you have Muslim friends. That's fine. You can keep them. I don't trust them.
And I had bad experiences with Muslims-turned-SDA at WWC. They would call Americans filthy names and were nasty mean-spirited people.
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There's no point in burying a hatchet if you're going to put up a marker on the site. ~ Sydney Harris
He who speaks the truth, often talks to himself. ~ Mexican proverb
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#341727 - 2010-03-06 16:16:29
Re: Adventists and Islam
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I have a Muslim friend who is against violence, as many are. We have peaceful, honest discussions.
In Genesis 16:12 the Lord predicts that Ishmael would be a "wild man," and "his hand will be against every man". It also says that "... he shall dwell (prosper) in the presence of all his brethren."
It's one thing to know this, but should we dwell on it and become discouraged by it? God still reigns!
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A heart set on love will do no wrong- Confucius
And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. Isaiah 32:17
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#341733 - 2010-03-06 16:24:32
Re: Adventists and Islam
[Re: Gail]
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I have a Muslim friend who is against violence, as many are. We have peaceful, honest discussions.
In Genesis 16:12 the Lord predicts that Ishmael would be a "wild man," and "his hand will be against every man". It also says that "... he shall dwell (prosper) in the presence of all his brethren."
It's one thing to know this, but should we dwell on it and become discouraged by it? God still reigns! Good point Gail. pk
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"And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country." John F Kennedy
"Government is the enemy, until you need a friend". Bill Cohen
Many people consider the things government does for them to be social progress but they regard the things government does for others as socialism. Earl Warren
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#341951 - 2010-03-07 00:06:45
Re: Adventists and Islam
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I have a Muslim friend who is against violence, as many are. We have peaceful, honest discussions.
In Genesis 16:12 the Lord predicts that Ishmael would be a "wild man," and "his hand will be against every man". It also says that "... he shall dwell (prosper) in the presence of all his brethren."
It's one thing to know this, but should we dwell on it and become discouraged by it? God still reigns! Gail, you're not an American. But still watch your back.
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There's no point in burying a hatchet if you're going to put up a marker on the site. ~ Sydney Harris
He who speaks the truth, often talks to himself. ~ Mexican proverb
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#342050 - 2010-03-07 09:16:19
Re: Adventists and Islam
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In Genesis 16:12 the Lord predicts that Ishmael would be a "wild man," and "his hand will be against every man". It also says that "... he shall dwell (prosper) in the presence of all his brethren."
I do not believe Islam can really trace it's roots to Ishmael.
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