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#340708 - 2010-03-02 18:20:19 Re: Prayer Desperately Needed by SE Calif. CONF [Re: John317]
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Will add this to our pray list. Pretty unreal!

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#340715 - 2010-03-02 18:32:00 Re: Prayer Desperately Needed by SE Calif. CONF [Re: oldsailor29]
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Thank you, oldsailer. I agree with your whole post.

Here in Southern Ca., some of the churches are being combined because of their shrinking membership. I can see how that can be disturbing to some people. They were thinking of doing it to our local church but decided finally against it. We got a new pastor, who happens to speak Spanish, so they asked all the Spanish-speaking members from a different church to join ours. That works out good because my wife and family speak Spanish. So now we have a lot more people than we did a year ago.

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#340745 - 2010-03-02 19:44:43 Re: Prayer Desperately Needed by SE Calif. CONF [Re: John317]
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Shrinking membership? Hmmm? Here in Calimesa we have to have two services because of all of the members. Perhaps people are not being fed a good spiritual meal in these churches, how sad!

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#340770 - 2010-03-02 20:11:52 Re: Prayer Desperately Needed by SE Calif. CONF [Re: Dr. Rich]
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KEEP us updated please

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#340858 - 2010-03-03 03:23:40 Re: Prayer Desperately Needed by SE Calif. CONF [Re: Dr. Rich]
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Originally Posted By: Dr. Rich
Shrinking membership? Hmmm? Here in Calimesa we have to have two services because of all of the members. Perhaps people are not being fed a good spiritual meal in these churches, how sad!


You can't assume that, Dr. Rich. Some of the biggest and most popular churches in the world are not fed the truth. They are being fed what they want but what they want may not be truth at all but merely a popular message that makes them feel good. Truth, after all, is not fundamentally a popularity contest.

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#340859 - 2010-03-03 03:26:42 Re: Prayer Desperately Needed by SE Calif. CONF [Re: dgrimm60]
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Here's an update on the situation in SE CA Conf.:

On Monday afternoon, February 22, the president of Southeastern California Conference received an anonymous letter issuing threats against four of the conference officers because of a church merger. While the officers usually pay little attention to anonymous letters, this one was turned over to the police for investigation.

In addition to existing security measures, the conference has temporarily implemented additional measures. It is also reviewing longer term building security to insure the safety of all workers in the office.

Over the weekend an e-mail message began circulating around the Internet detailing a very imaginative but inaccurate list of security measures it claimed had been put in place at the office. Please know that with a few security measures in place, a heightened sense of awareness, and trust in God’s care, the work of the church is continuing uninterrupted. People with questions or information about this incident should contact me at the phone number or e-mail address below.

If there is anything else I can do for you, please do not hesitate to contact me again.

Jocelyn Fay
Assistant to the President for Communication
Southeastern California Conference
951-509-2253

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#340875 - 2010-03-03 08:34:04 Re: Prayer Desperately Needed by SE Calif. CONF [Re: John317]
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THANK you for this update

still praying for this situation and the people

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#341016 - 2010-03-03 22:41:32 Re: Prayer Desperately Needed by SE Calif. CONF [Re: dgrimm60]
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Yes John thanks for the updated info.

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#341138 - 2010-03-04 10:48:03 Re: Prayer Desperately Needed by SE Calif. CONF [Re: John317]
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Originally Posted By: John317
Originally Posted By: Dr. Rich
Shrinking membership? Hmmm? Here in Calimesa we have to have two services because of all of the members. Perhaps people are not being fed a good spiritual meal in these churches, how sad!


You can't assume that, Dr. Rich. Some of the biggest and most popular churches in the world are not fed the truth. They are being fed what they want but what they want may not be truth at all but merely a popular message that makes them feel good. Truth, after all, is not fundamentally a popularity contest.


Hmm. I've never been to a 'feel good church'. I would like to find out what they are like. Which church have you witnessed that are 'feel good churches' ?
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#341141 - 2010-03-04 11:26:19 Re: Prayer Desperately Needed by SE Calif. CONF [Re: John317]
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Originally Posted By: John317
Thank you, oldsailer. I agree with your whole post.

Here in Southern Ca., some of the churches are being combined because of their shrinking membership. I can see how that can be disturbing to some people. They were thinking of doing it to our local church but decided finally against it. We got a new pastor, who happens to speak Spanish, so they asked all the Spanish-speaking members from a different church to join ours. That works out good because my wife and family speak Spanish. So now we have a lot more people than we did a year ago.
It is sure amazing to read here that Churches in such a heavily populated area as California are "shrinking." I wonder if consolidating/mergers will adress the actual cause of this?

It almost sounds like the person making such threats though, is actually a Church member. My prayer here would be that this person gets caught. They really need help that the Church may not be able to give them.
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