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#338587 - 2010-02-24 14:30:47 Re: uncle Tom on Canada [Re: Gail]
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Originally Posted By: Gail
Does anyone remember long ago when a member, I think JR Layman (when he was a member) mentioned that there was a time when the U.S. nearly went to war with Canada over a pig?

He posted it as a kind of guessing game, but I think it was Gregory Matthews who knew it to be true!


I didn't know that Gail. At least I don't recall.

pk
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#338596 - 2010-02-24 14:44:48 Re: uncle Tom on Canada [Re: pkrause]
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GAIL

I ALSO DID not know that but I am sure
that many wars were started over small things

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#338597 - 2010-02-24 14:47:20 Re: uncle Tom on Canada [Re: pkrause]
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That crisis came on June 15, 1859, when an American settler named Lyman Cutlar shot and killed a pig belonging to the Hudson's Bay Company because it was rooting in his garden. When British authorities threatened to arrest Cutlar, American citizens drew up a petition requesting U.S. military protection. Brigadier General William S. Harney, the anti-British commander of the Department of Oregon, responded by sending a company of the 9th U.S. Infantry under Captain George E. Pickett (of later Civil War fame) to San Juan. Pickett's 66-man unit landed on July 27 and occupied a commanding spot near the Hudson's Bay Company wharf, just north of Belle Vue Farm.

James Douglas, governor of the new Crown Colony of British Columbia, was angered at the presence of American soldiers on San Juan. He had three British warships under Captain Geoffrey Hornby sent to dislodge Pickett but with instructions to avoid an armed clash if possible. Pickett, though overwhelmingly outnumbered, refused to withdraw.

Throughout the remaining days of July and well into August, the British force in Griffin Bay (then San Juan Harbor) continued to grow. Captain Hornby, however, wisely refused to take any action against the Americans until the arrival of Rear Admiral Robert L. Baynes, commander of British naval forces in the Pacific. Baynes, appalled at the situation, advised Douglas that he would not "involve two great nations in a war over a squabble about a pig."

http://www.nps.gov/archive/sajh/Pig_War_new.htm
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#338598 - 2010-02-24 14:49:47 Re: uncle Tom on Canada [Re: rudywoofs]
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#338607 - 2010-02-24 14:58:09 Re: uncle Tom on Canada [Re: Gail]
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RUDYWOOFS

WELL thank you for this bit of history


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#338610 - 2010-02-24 15:12:17 Re: uncle Tom on Canada [Re: rudywoofs]
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Originally Posted By: rudywoofs
That crisis came on June 15, 1859, when an American settler named Lyman Cutlar shot and killed a pig belonging to the Hudson's Bay Company because it was rooting in his garden. When British authorities threatened to arrest Cutlar, American citizens drew up a petition requesting U.S. military protection. Brigadier General William S. Harney, the anti-British commander of the Department of Oregon, responded by sending a company of the 9th U.S. Infantry under Captain George E. Pickett (of later Civil War fame) to San Juan. Pickett's 66-man unit landed on July 27 and occupied a commanding spot near the Hudson's Bay Company wharf, just north of Belle Vue Farm.

James Douglas, governor of the new Crown Colony of British Columbia, was angered at the presence of American soldiers on San Juan. He had three British warships under Captain Geoffrey Hornby sent to dislodge Pickett but with instructions to avoid an armed clash if possible. Pickett, though overwhelmingly outnumbered, refused to withdraw.

Throughout the remaining days of July and well into August, the British force in Griffin Bay (then San Juan Harbor) continued to grow. Captain Hornby, however, wisely refused to take any action against the Americans until the arrival of Rear Admiral Robert L. Baynes, commander of British naval forces in the Pacific. Baynes, appalled at the situation, advised Douglas that he would not "involve two great nations in a war over a squabble about a pig."

http://www.nps.gov/archive/sajh/Pig_War_new.htm


Well thanks for that info and history lesson. :)

pk
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#338617 - 2010-02-24 15:59:56 Re: uncle Tom on Canada [Re: pkrause]
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ALSO thank you for that history information

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#338766 - 2010-02-24 20:09:28 Re: uncle Tom on Canada [Re: dgrimm60]
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I know I'm ignorant about a lot of things, but it surprised me to learn that the Hudson's Bay Company still exists. We learn about it in the early history of exploration of North America, but no mention is made later.

When I went to Canada to my son's wedding, I asked why the big department store in the mall was called "The Bay." That's when I found out that the Hudson's Bay Company is still going strong.

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#338780 - 2010-02-24 20:29:45 Re: uncle Tom on Canada [Re: Dottie]
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It is, but a few years back it was bought out by an American coupmany. :(

The interesting thing about the HBC is that their archives held much of Canada's early history.
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