I have recently discovered a way to prove with out a shadow of doubt that the original Passover of Exodus 12 occured on a Wednesday. There are time specific markers present in Exodus 16 which identify the Seventh day Sabbath in the second month of the exodus from Egypt. I compared the time specific testimony to a Wednesday Passover chart and A Friday chart. What is discovered is that the testimony in Exodus 16 only lines up correctly if the original passover occured on a Wednesday.

That research can be found at this link.

http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pd...20Wednesday.pdf

It's even further prophetic validation that the Crucifixion of Jesus occured on a Wednesday if Jesus fulfilled all things in the laws of moses concerning the passover Lamb.

I hope you are anjoying the study.

Blessings,


Todd M Vetter

It's is said that some are having trouble with the link not working for them.

The information at the link is in PDF format. To view the information you will need an adobe acrobat viewer software. This can be downloaded for free and with out spyware at this link from Adobe.

http://get.adobe.com/reader/

Again I hope you are all enjoying the studies. As I find new information i'll be sharing at this site. Feel free to share this information with others who share an interest.

God Bless

If you have opened the study in the past and are viewing it again, Be sure to hit the refresh button to view any new updates. Recently I added the testimony of a second to third century Bishop regarding where he placed the Anointing in Bethany based on the book of Matthew as it existed in his day. It's quite different from how the book of Matthew portrays the event in our day which has been the case since the third and fourth century councils.

He places the Anointing in Bethany event on the evening of the tenth day of the first month. That is interesting since the Gospel of twelve places this event on the same day of you have the correct year for the crucifixion.

Hope you are enjoying the study. remember that even though it can testify of God, you must still come to God if you are to have life. The Law of God in simplicity shows the Way that Jesus taught.

God Bless

That argument holds no water. Christ was crucified on Friday.

Luk 23:53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.
Luk 23:54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.
The preparation day is always Friday. The sabbath (7th day) drew on.
Luk 23:55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.
Luk 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.
Its clear they rested on the 7th day sabbath.

the next verse says:
Luk 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

Which is Sunday.


I would be very careful in tampering with days and times that cannot be changed, do you really want that responsibility?

God Bless! Steve

And besides I think it was mentioned before somewhere. The Jews at that time were celebrating Passover on 2 days. One for the coming out of Eygpt and the other one they started whem they were in Babylon I believe.

pk

The last two posters obviously did not review the link in my original Post which clearly illustrates why a Friday Passover was not a possibility.

You have to remember that Jesus stated that He fulfilled all things in the laws of Moses concerning the Passover Lamb. The Friday Crucifixion concept leaves a great deal of Prophecy unfulfilled.

Hope you will take the time to view the facts presented on every page of this link. By page 37 you will come to understand why the entire Christian world is of the spirit of Anti-christ regardless of Denomination.

http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/the%20death%20and%20resurrection.pdf

a preparation day always precedes a holy convocation day where no work is to be done as well. The first day of the passover and the last day of the week long passover celebration are holy convocation days where no work is to be done. That means a preparation day preceeds the 15th of Nissan and the 21st of Nissan.


The 15th of Nissan does not fall on a Saturday every year just as the 14th of Nissan does not fall on a friday every year. Only your ignorance of Jewish Laws which jesus claimed to fulfill states that a preparation day only occurs on a friday.

My studies also illustrate Jesus coming out of the tomb on Sunday (the first day of the week) So im not sure what point you were trying to make other than to illustrate for everyone here that you did not read the study I have to share. And you are relying on traditional rhetoric to defend a traditional vew that is not only prophetically incorrect but makes God out to look like a liar because men do not belive the witness that God gave his son.

Learn more about the Jewish Laws and you will understand better why you are currently of the spirit of Anti-christ. Sowing Discord among the world instead of delivering souls.

Proverbs 6:19
A false witnesses who speaks lies, and one who sows discord among brethren.

dis•cord: (d s kôrd ) n.. 1. a. Lack of agreement among persons, groups, or things. b. Tension or strife resulting from a lack of agreement; dissension.

For unity in Christ and solid truth, one must speak the truth about God, from God, if they are to bare good fruit and deliver souls.

Proverbs 14:25
A true witnesses delivers souls, But a deceitful witness speaks lies.

Are you a member of a denomination or are you a member of spirit and truth? For this you must be born again and of the truth. Those of the truth hear God's voice and can do all that the Christ did and more. is this you?

Just like a good Catholic Christian to present half the truth to defend a traditional perception. Catholic Tradition and doctrine is engrained in Adventist tradition more than the Adventist realizes.

What you also failed to mention with this gospel of Half truth is how the women prepared the spices before the Seventh day Sabbath if they did not purchase the spices until after the Sabbath had past.

Mark16:1
"Now when the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, that they might come and anoint Him."

See pages 14-24 of the link provided which covers the 4 bible half truths concerning this event.

The other problem you have to work out is that two gospels state that Evening had come before Joseph even removed Christ from the Cross. So how did the women watch the burial that happend before the sun had set if Jesus was not taken off the cross according to two gospels before Evening had come.

You may want to view the recommended pages of the link study before making yourself look silly.

http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/the%20death%20and%20resurrection.pdf

I made a simplified time chart which breaks down in full the testimony found in Exodus 16 as well as numbers 33 since it has information to contibute to the travels of Israel from Elim to the wilderness of Sin. Some have voiced confusion over some bible versions portraying the 15th day of the second month from the time of the exodus as a day that Isreal was traveling from Elim to the wilderness of sin. The reason for the confusion is due to bad puctuation, poor translation and missing information that is further elaborated on in the book of numbers.

I also included some screen shots from Google earth which mark the locations of the Camp sites for this chapter of study so that one can see the distance traveled between each encampment.

All needed information to understand why the original Passover Lamb was slain on a Wednesday can now be found at this link. if you have google earth with a high definition monitor, you can view the locations in detail for yourself.

http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/Exodus%2016%20confirms%20Wednesday%20Passover%20Theory.pdf

God Bless

The trouble with bible translations of Exodus 16: 1-2 Does it cause men to tell a lie built on half the truth?

In my studies I illustrate all the needed history to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday. A strong supporting argument to this fact, is the full chapter of Exodus 16 which identifies the 15th day of the second month as a seventh day Sabbath rest, as well as the 22nd day of the second month from the Exodus as a Seventh day Sabbath. When plotting these two days on a Hebrew seven day week calendar chart and counting back the correct number of days to determine the 14th of Nissan, one discovers that the original Passover Lamb was also slain on a Wednesday.

The problem with the bible translations of Exodus 16:1-2 is that it illustrates the 15th day of the second month from the exodus as a travel day, so it could not therefore be a Sabbath day of rest according to current bible translations. There is a possibility that the verse has been altered by scribes and translators to give an incorrect perception of what it was intended to portray. We are going to discover that possibility to be a reality.

We are going to examine the Exodus 16:1-2 verse from every English bible version as seen on www.biblegateway.com to see if there is consistency between what is presented, or to see if there is inconsistency. If there is inconsistency we are going to discover why the inconsistency exists. The version of the bible that each verse was taken from is not important since many claim the bible is the unchanging perfect word of God and without Error. In this document we will see if there is truth to that tradition of understanding.

Exodus 16:1-2: bible verses which specifically state Israel departed Elim on the 15th day.
On the fifteenth day of the second month after they had left Egypt, the whole company of Israel moved on from Elim to the Wilderness of Sin which is between Elim and Sinai. The whole company of Israel complained against Moses and Aaron there in the wilderness.

On the fifteenth day of the second month after the Israelites had escaped from Egypt, they left Elim and started through the western edge of the Sinai Desert [a] in the direction of Mount Sinai. 2There in the desert they started complaining to Moses and Aaron,

Exodus 16:1-2: bible verses which specifically state Israel arrived in the wilderness of sin on the 15th day.
Then the whole community of Israel set out from Elim and journeyed into the wilderness of Sin,[a] between Elim and Mount Sinai. They arrived there on the fifteenth day of the second month, one month after leaving the land of Egypt. 2 There, too, the whole community of Israel complained about Moses and Aaron.

The whole Israelite community left Elim and came to the Desert of Sin, which was between Elim and Sinai; they arrived there on the fifteenth day of the second month after they had left Egypt.2 Then the whole Israelite community grumbled to Moses and Aaron in the desert.

The whole community of Israel started out from Elim. They came to the Desert of Sin. It was between Elim and Sinai. They arrived there on the 15th day of the second month after they had come out of Egypt. 2 In the desert the whole community told Moses and Aaron they weren't happy with them.

Exodus 16:1-2: verses which imply they departed from Elim and arrived in the wilderness of sin on the 15th day
And they journeyed from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came to the Wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after they departed from the land of Egypt. 2 Then the whole congregation of the children of Israel complained against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness.

1 The whole Israelite community set out from Elim and came to the Desert of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after they had come out of Egypt. 2 In the desert the whole community grumbled against Moses and Aaron.

Then they set out from Elim, and all the congregation of the sons of Israel came to the wilderness of (A)Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on (B)the fifteenth day of the second month after their departure from the land of Egypt. 2The whole congregation of the sons of Israel (C) grumbled against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness.

1THEY SET out from Elim, and all the congregation of Israel came to the Wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after they left the land of Egypt. 2And the whole congregation of Israel murmured against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness,

And they took their journey from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came unto the wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after their departing out of the land of Egypt. 2And the whole congregation of the children of Israel murmured against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness:

They set out from Elim, and all the congregation of the people of Israel came to the wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after they had departed from the land of Egypt. 2And the whole congregation of the people of Israel (B) grumbled against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness,

And they took their journey from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came unto the Wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after their departing out of the land of Egypt. 2And the whole congregation of the children of Israel murmured against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness.

And they took their journey from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came unto the wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after their departing out of the land of Egypt. 2 And the whole congregation of the children of Israel murmured against Moses and against Aaron in the wilderness:

1And they journey from Elim, and all the company of the sons of Israel come in unto the wilderness of Sin, which [is] between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month of their going out from the land of Egypt. 2And all the company of the sons of Israel murmur against Moses and against Aaron in the wilderness;

And they journeyed from Elim, and the whole assembly of the children of Israel came into the wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after their departure out of the land of Egypt. 2And the whole assembly of the children of Israel murmured against Moses and against Aaron in the wilderness.

The entire Israelite community departed from Elim and came to the Wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after they had left the land of Egypt. (A) 2 The entire Israelite community grumbled (B) against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness.

1 The whole Israelite community set out from Elim and came to the Desert of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after they had come out of Egypt. 2 In the desert the whole community grumbled against Moses and Aaron.

The whole Israelite community set out from Elim and came to the Desert of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after they had come out of Egypt. 2 In the desert the whole community grumbled against Moses and Aaron.

If God is not the author of confusion, why does our bible present what could be confusion for this event? Some would say there is no confusion and that it is obvious they made the trip in one day. Are they telling the solid truth? I don’t ask this question without good reason which we will cover soon. There are three questions we must ask ourselves to even determine if confusion is present. Take the time to answer these questions to yourself to see if you will answer them correctly based on your current perceptions.

1. Did Israel begin and complete the journey from Elim to the Wilderness of Sin in a single day on that 15th day of the second month?
2. Did Israel really leave Elim on the 15th day?
3. Did Israel really arrive at Wilderness of Sin on the 15th day?

If you answered yes to any of the three questions you could be wrong on all three due to a Hebrew punctuation Error that was made long after the text was originally written. When this testimony was punctuated, the early scribe adding in the punctuation was unaware that this verse was missing a vital portion of time specific truth that would have caused him to punctuate differently.

The reason I asked the questions you were sure to answer incorrectly is due to the testimony found in numbers 33:10-12 which is specific to the journey taken and has this to say about the time it took for Israel to travel from Elim to the Wilderness of Sin.

Numbers 33: 10 They moved from Elim and camped by the Red Sea. 11 They moved from the Red Sea and camped in the Wilderness of Sin. 12 They journeyed from the Wilderness of Sin and camped at Dophkah.

When we realize that there is more testimony regarding duration of time specific to this event, it becomes clear that one or more of the bible version testimonies translated for Exodus 16:1-2 are not telling a truth. We now know it’s physically impossible for this trip to have been made from Elim to the Wilderness of Sin all in the same day if they first went in the opposite direction of the wilderness of sin and made camp. So now which verse do you believe to be telling a truth? Is it the verses which state they left Elim on the 15th day? Is it the verse that says they arrived in the wilderness of sin on the 15th day? It clearly cannot be the majority of translations which imply the trip lasted only one day.

Knowing that punctuation did not exist in the original Hebrew text at the time they were recorded can clear up this issue. Knowing that bad punctuation has led to what is obviously confusion in translation for when they left Elim and arrived at the wilderness of sin will also be helpful. One fact that is clear, they could not have left Elim on the 15th day and arrived in the wilderness of sin on that same 15th day if they first camped by the Red Sea after leaving Elim and then proceeded to the Wilderness of Sin

When you combine the numbers 33 travel testimony with the Exodus 16: 1-2 testimony since they are in regards to the same point in history giving greater detail of the event, you come up with a story that looks much like this below verse. Take note of the punctuation in red color font which is still as you will see it in the bible versions for this verse.

They journeyed from Elim, and camped by the Red Sea. They moved from the Red Sea and all the congregation of the children of Israel came to the Wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai and camped , on the fifteenth day of the second month after they departed from the land of Egypt. 2 The whole congregation of the children of Israel complained against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness.

Now we can see a bigger picture of what actually transpired regarding the amount of time that elapsed from departure from Elim, to the arrival at the Wilderness of Sin. The question to ask at this point due to punctuation is this; Did Israel arrive at the wilderness of sin on the 15th day of the second month making that day a travel day, or is the 15th day testimony specific to the events that followed their arrival and encampment for the rest of chapter 16 regarding the complaint of hunger issued by the children of Israel? If specific to the complaint of hunger, then the story would look like this. The Red punctuation has been swapped.

They journeyed from Elim, and camped by the Red Sea. They moved from the Red Sea and all the congregation of the children of Israel came to the Wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai and camped. On the fifteenth day of the second month after they departed from the land of Egypt , 2 the whole congregation of the children of Israel complained against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness.

By changing the Comma after “and camped” to a period and the period after “Land of Egypt” to a Comma, it can be seen that the testimony regarding the 15th day of the second month was in reference to the Complaint of hunger and not the travel. If it was in reference to the travel, it has led Christian translators to confusion for this issue causing them to insert false testimony into bible versions.

It becomes clear that Hebrew scribes when adding punctuation to this important verse of testimony did so in Error by using a perception that was built on half the truth since the other half of the truth was found in Numbers 33: 10-12 which clearly would have effected how this verse was to be punctuated. When one reads this verse in Hebrew, it closely resembles the English translations which imply that they left Elim and arrived in the Wilderness of Sin on the same 15th day. We know from numbers 33:10-12 that this simply just is not true if they first stopped by the Red Sea. Would the scribes have punctuated differently had they made the connection about the stop at the Red Sea? That question you will have to ask a Jewish Rabbi.

The accuracy of the translation of this verse in concert with the rest of chapter 16 validates that the 15th day of the second month from the Exodus was in fact a Seventh day Sabbath rest after camp was established in the wilderness of Sin. This is important for having prophetic validation concerning what day of the week the Original Passover Lamb was slain since Christ claimed to fulfill all things in the Laws of Moses. This next link elaborates further on Exodus 16 the full chapter and contains the mapped locations of Elim, Wilderness of Sin and the mountain of Moses.

http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/Exodus%2016%20confirms%20Wednesday%20Passover%20Theory.pdf