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#250444 - 2009-06-15 21:56:02 book on death and resurrection ***
todd_vetter Offline
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Finally a book on the death and resurrection that really covers the topic from every possible angle. Using multiple time specifice prophecies like a GPS, the author of this study has pinpointed the precise day and year for the death and resurrection. The compellation of information makes this study by far the most objective and complete to date.

Best of all there is no speculation, just perception defined by prophecy and backed by solid historical references.

Your going to love this read.

By page 35 it gives a very credible ancient tetsimony that illustrates the current condition of salvation for the entire world including Christians. The book can be found here and it's free! usually the best things in life are!

http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/the%20death%20and%20resurrection.pdf

Feel free to share this with others

God Bless.
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#250527 - 2009-06-16 12:34:26 Re: book on death and resurrection [Re: todd_vetter]
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Tell me more...

Who has authored this, and who is the publisher?
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#295104 - 2009-11-11 19:01:14 Re: book on death and resurrection [Re: Gail]
todd_vetter33 Offline
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I am the author. I built the time line in power point presentation and converted it to PDF. There is no copy write on the information so that it can be free to share, just as all truth from God should never cost so much as a penny since God gives freely.

It's basically a walk through the darkness of Christian history. What it reveals is the darkness of the mystery and why many are still a part of that darkness even if they do not believe they are. Sin in ignorance still required a sacrifice according to the laws of Moses. That means sin in ignorance still leads men to death. They must learn how to not bare false witness if they are to take the gospel to the world. This can only be done in spirit and in truth. So far the Christian world has brought many bible versions that change as history plays out. They have also brought denominational divisions and various degrees of speculations all built on the same book that keeps changing depending on the version.

If any page of this study appears to illustrate any bible testimony or historical testimony untruthfully, please bring this to my attention since it's not my intention to bare false witness against a living God who speaks to those who choose to be of the truth.

Due to added information page 37 is the page of interest mentioned in my original post.

God Bless


Edited by todd_vetter33 (2009-11-11 20:45:07)

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#295117 - 2009-11-11 19:21:33 Re: book on death and resurrection [Re: todd_vetter]
rudywoofs Offline
who?


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Originally Posted By: todd_vetter
Finally a book on the death and resurrection that really covers the topic from every possible angle. Using multiple time specifice prophecies like a GPS, the author of this study has pinpointed the precise day and year for the death and resurrection. The compellation of information makes this study by far the most objective and complete to date.

Best of all there is no speculation, just perception defined by prophecy and backed by solid historical references.

Your going to love this read.

By page 35 it gives a very credible ancient tetsimony that illustrates the current condition of salvation for the entire world including Christians. The book can be found here and it's free! usually the best things in life are!

http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/the%20death%20and%20resurrection.pdf

Feel free to share this with others

God Bless.


Sure gave yourself a "build-up" without telling anyone before Gail asked who wrote the thing....seems sort of deceitful to me.
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#295123 - 2009-11-11 19:30:36 Re: book on death and resurrection [Re: rudywoofs]
todd_vetter33 Offline
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You are welcome to present or illustrate any page of the study where I speak deceitfully. In fact I encourage this for spiritual learning. It causes us to validate why we believe differently even though all of Christianity builds on the same book. (bible)

If I have spoke deceitfully or falsely regarding the content of the book. Please bare witness to my falsehood so that I may repent if I have done so.


Edited by todd_vetter33 (2009-11-11 19:41:09)

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#295172 - 2009-11-11 20:52:04 Re: book on death and resurrection [Re: todd_vetter33]
dgrimm60 Online   content


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TODD_VETTER33

so are you going to have this published

dgrimm60

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#295187 - 2009-11-11 21:04:49 Re: book on death and resurrection [Re: dgrimm60]
todd_vetter33 Offline
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If I published it, then people would have to pay for it. Where in the plan of salvation does it say we must pay for truth with anything more than personal sacrifice by abstaining from Sin? Repentance washes the temple clean and the spirit gives life once the temple is ready to house the spirit of God.

How can the temple be cleansed if men make a book their word of God instead of receiving the word of God from God?

The study is a listing of historical objective truths. Though it testifies of God, mankind must still come to God if they are to have life.

I will not be publishing the book other than the manner in which you see it now. It's actually to big to publish due to its elelctronic form; it has many links to many references and additional studies for the topics presented on particular pages.

For the main site where the study is hosted: http://www.thedeathandresurection.com

There you can find many bonus studies not listed in the main time line.

God Bless




Edited by todd_vetter33 (2009-11-11 21:07:48)

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#295259 - 2009-11-11 22:25:15 Re: book on death and resurrection [Re: todd_vetter33]
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TODD_VETTER33

WELL that is a go point

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#303945 - 2009-12-02 20:04:35 Re: book on death and resurrection [Re: dgrimm60]
todd_vetter33 Offline
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A New discovery illustrating even further why God's word is a light to the world if it is correctly defined as prophecy. This is going to shake the foundation of the Christian world.

I'll be adding this to the time line very soon. This testimony below is the perception of a second to third century bishop regarding the Anointing in Bethany Event and where he places this event in the week Prior to Christ's Crucifixion based on the Gospel testimonies as they appeard in his time period.

Link ref For following historical testimony
http://www.bombaxo.com/didascalia.html

"on the tenth of the moon, on the second day of the week, (p. 92) the priests and elders of the people assembled and came to the court of Caiaphas the high priest; and they took counsel to apprehend Jesus and put him to death: but they feared, saying: Not in the festival, lest the people make a tumult [Mt 26.3-5]; for all men were hanging upon Him [Lk 19.48], and they held him for a prophet [Mt 21.46] on account of His miracles of healing which He did among them. But Jesus was that day in the house of Simon the leper [Mt 26.6], and we together with Him, and He related to us that which was about to happen to Him. But Judas went out privily from us, thinking that he would evade our Lord, and went to the house of Caiaphas where the chief priests and elders were assembled, and said to them: What will ye give me, and I will betray Him to you when I have found an occasion? But they appointed [[188]] and gave him thirty pieces of silver [Mt 26.15]. And he said to them: 'Make ready young men armed, because of His disciples, that if He go forth by night to a desert place I may come and lead you.' And they made ready the young men and prepared to seize Him. And Judas was watching, when he might find him an occasion to betray him".

If Christ died on a Friday in the Year of His Crucifixion, The testimony as illustrated above regarding the anointing in Bethany would have taken place on the second day of the week for the tenth of the moon or Ten Nissan. See page 9 of the time line that is link referenced at the end of this examination for example. What is clear by this testimony is that it is placing the anointing in Bethany on the Evening of the tenth day of the first month since it's in reference to the upcoming Passover/crucifixion. For the possibility of a Friday crucifixion this would have been a Sunday Night (Gregorian time). This in turn according to the book of John would have placed the triumphal entry on a Monday if it happened the day after the anointing in Bethany. This illustrates that the Palm Sunday tradition had not yet been established by the 3rd century councils that defined the tenet view. The Third century Christians had a great deal of confusion based on the written testimonies that existed in their time.

All through the Didascalia Apostolorum the Bishop appears to be quoting from Matt, Mark, Luke and John yet he had this perception of understanding which is very different and not consistent with the traditional perceptions shared by much of Christianity today who build their understanding on what should be the same gospels if they never changed by the hand of scribes during the first three centuries where no solid accountability can be given or verified.

If Christ died on a Wednesday in 30 AD, (see page 12 of time line) what we have is a piece of historical testimonial evidence corroborating that the anointing in Bethany occurred on the evening of the tenth day of the first month, (Ten Nissan). If Christ was crucified in 30 AD, the anointing in Bethany would have been the Evening of the Sabbath just as the Gospel of the twelve presents which gives credibility that the Gospel of the twelve predates the Didascalia Apostolorum which is said to have been written in the second to Third century prior to the 3rd and 4th century councils. The four day prophecy of Exodus 12 is able to then illustrate that this Bishop who wrote Didascalia Apostolorum was not baring solid true witness regarding the illustrated events when he claimed it was the Second day of the week. Exodus 12 prophecy and the historical evidence of its fulfillment also highlights that the Gospel of John is not baring true witness by claiming the anointing in Bethany occurred 6 days before the Passover. It exposes that Matthew and Mark are also not baring true witness by illustrating that the anointing in Bethany occurred two days before the Passover.

The Gospel of the twelve, though placing the anointing in Bethany with the correct perception of time for when the event occurred (Evening of the Sabbath) appears to skip the day time period for the event that would have occurred on the Sabbath day following the anointing in Bethany by stating that the triumphal entry occurred on the First day of the week. Later in the Gospel of twelve’s testimony of events that followed up to the Crucifixion, someone from our Christian past added in a day transition in the middle of the Cleansing of the Temple testimony, otherwise the Gospel of Twelve would have portrayed Jesus Crucifixion on a Thursday.

What I find most interesting is that the bishop appears to be using the book of Matthew as it appeared in His day (specifically chapter 26 as it appears in our day) to explain his perception of understanding. The oldest know copies of the canonized gospels can only be allegedly dateable to the 3rd to 4th century. Chapter 26 of Matthew as it appears to us today begins with a time marker by stating it was Two days before the Passover, (12 Nissan) then illustrates the same events that the bishop was trying to portray occurring two days earlier than the gospels of Matt and Mark currently portray. If the Gospel of Matthew and Mark which state a uniform perception of time for these events were never changed or altered by Scribes in the third or fourth century, this Bishop, whose testimony is said to predate the oldest preserved Christian gospel texts would not be presenting this perception of understanding which goes very contrary to the perception of time presented by our bibles gospels today regarding the anointing in Bethany event. This is clear evidence that the bible gospels we have today are not what were available to the Third century Christian prior to the 3rd and 4th century councils.

One thing that is very clear is that this man is a man of intelligence and reason who was familiar with the Jewish concept of time regarding an evening and morning making a day. It’s very clear that he inherited written lies which caused him to build an understanding on lies. We today are an end result of this which gives us evidence of this below Jeremiah prophecy in fulfillment since many make the bible the Word of God instead of the voice of truth that those of the truth should hear as was spoken by Jesus to Pilate.

Jeremiah 16: 19-20
19 O LORD, my strength and my fortress, My refuge in the day of affliction, The Gentiles shall come to You From the ends of the earth and say, “Surely our fathers have inherited lies, Worthlessness and unprofitable things.” 20 Will a man make gods for himself, which are not gods?

The time line at the below link illustrates very clearly how to use OT Prophecy as a light to the confusion of Christian written recorded history. See pages 9 and 12 in comparison to the Bishops testimony. The mystery of Babylon is soon to be solved when the born again process (the true gospel of the Christ) begins being taken to the world in truth through the Spirit that gives life, not the letter which kills. 2 Corinthians 3:4-6

http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/the%20death%20and%20resurrection.pdf


Edited by todd_vetter33 (2009-12-02 20:20:42)

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#303949 - 2009-12-02 20:13:01 Re: book on death and resurrection [Re: todd_vetter33]
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TODD_VETTER33

well this is interesting

dgrimm60

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