Were not there also the Nephilim on the earth before and after the flood? Tell me, how did they excape the flood?

If Satan was cast to this earth before it was created, how could that be? Or was Satan cast to this earth right after creation of Adam but before Adam sined? How did Adam know about death? Who did Cain Marry?

Satan was cast from heaven BEFORE the creation of this world. He doubtless spent that time pestering the other worlds, who did not accept his nonsense! That's why he was ready to pounce on this new creation -- his last chance!

Beryl

Really? Well I can tell you that I have serious doubts. Why, because Rev. 12, being a snopsis of the history of the Kingdom of Heaven, presents a picture where there was war in heaven (no, not the heavens), and thrown to this earth along with a third of the ALL the angels. Wow, must of been some legal argument Lucifer had before God to cause a third to go along with him!.

Beryl, have you ever read the book of Enoch and his prophecy refered to in Jude 1:14? How about in Job where these demons were called the watchers?

Here is the thing: By reading the Septuagent and studying Zitchen's great study on this issue, it appears that God created mankind (all of the races) and placed His angels to watch and teach them about Him after the first 7 day creation. After this, in Gen. 2:2 and on, we see that 'The Lord God' made 'the man' out of earth and then (yes after The Lord God had made the man), created yet further the animals of the field (the ones that went into the ark).

But then, this is only a theory, much the same as the one you gave. But then, my theory would agree with the the old testament, the words of Jesus, and with science.

That is true. He was cast out of heaven before the creation of this world - but was specifically removed from his ability to annoy other intelligent life at the cross when he was unmasked as the murderer of Christ.

That is why in Rev 12 you see him "cast down to this world" after Christ is taken to heaven.

in Christ,

Bob

It is likely that mankind disbursed along the lines of languages created at Babel. Also note that "in the days of Peleg the earth was divided" according to the book of Genesis.

That could be both the division by language and a topographical/geological split of the Continents sometime after Babel.

in Christ,

Bob

Eight of them escaped it. Read Genesis 6 through 8.



Lost the war in heaven before the earth was created - but was not restricted to earth in any significant way until after the cross as Rev 12 points out.

Adam's children inter-married just as Abraham married his sister and as Jacob married his first cousin. Genetic defects in DNA had not progressed to the point of causing damage at that level during the time of Adam.

So also - Noah's grandchildren - cousins marrying cousins.


in Christ,

Bob

Come on Bob, the eight that went into the ark were not the Nephilim. Who were the giants that the spies saw when 12 were sent in to spy? And please provide the right scripture to provide validation to your post. You also said that Satan was cast down before the creation--where do you get that> verify please. Anyone can make a statement, but without verification it will fall just as the house build upon sand will fall.

And I should "believe" that you are the expert that would know that "why"??

Just "because"??



Only 8 people left on the planet according to Genesis 6-9 at the end of the flood. (or are those pages also snipped out of your Bible??). The Nephilim of Joshuah's day were descended from those 8. (As we all know).

The issue of Nephilim was "by comparison" to the writers (Moses and Joshuah) and many of their contemporaries - so "by comparison" indeed the people before the flood were all giants. Moses did not say "some of them were Nephelim" in Genesis six -- as you seem to imagine.

We see larger populations of Nephelim the closer you go back in time to the flood event.

The details are a problem for your view, but they support Ellen White's position -- as it turns out. Hmm She is inspired -- you are making bad guesses. Now "who" should we suppose to be the "expert"??

Let each decide for themselves.

in Christ,

Bob

Good post Bob, I agree with you.

pk