I would expect that the New Earth will be very much the same as God's first creation of the earth. After all, He made a perfect world -- why would He want to change it? We are told that the Garden of Eden was taken to heaven before the flood, and has been kept there ready to be brought back to this earth as the home of Adam and Eve. We know that the Holy city will also be brought to earth. But, apart from that, God originally created a perfect world for this planet. Why would he want to change that perfect plan?

Beryl

Exactly where are we told that [the Garden of Eden was taken to heaven]?

AH 539

Not sure if this was what you wanted Glad.

If it is or not Red, he's got it now!!!!!

pk

So does anyone have any thoughts on the question I asked about what negative factors about time, as we currently know it, might be rectified in an earth made new?

What are some things that might be considered bad about or as a result of time?

Perhaps looking at the question in the opposite direction could help focus our thinking. What are the positive benefits or good aspects of time as we currently experience it? What do we gain as time passes? What are some good things about being time bound humans?

One thing we do not know is the original rotational speed of the moon and earth. Possibly the moon's rotation around the earth was faster so a month was 4 weeks or was it arranged so that the moon was always full? The moon has been battered so badly (earth too) that we don't know what the original plan was...mel

All of the chemical and electrical processes that make our life even possible are cause-and-effect processes, and since effects must come after causes, are time-bound. We could not be as we are and still live without time. We would have to be transformed into a non-material form like God's to be able to survive without time... and then we might be 'as gods' ourselves...

Bottom line, I think we're stuck with time.

That doesn't have to mean stuck with aging, though - there's a very specific process that causes us to age, which if switched off could allow us to endlessly renew our bodies forever. There are already mice that live as long as many generations of their relatives.

I am not so sure that anything can really escape time. Even describing a completely static state requires a concept of time. Frozen in time, so to speak.

We seem to be operating from a premise that God is outside of time. But maybe it is that God simply experiences, or sees time differently from us.

As I think about my questions I begin to see that the negative aspects I associate with time are not so much the fault of time itself but because of a limit on time...

Not enough time... Time's up... I don't have the time... I have to hurry because I am running out of time... That which begins always has an end for us... we are born, we die. No time for reflection...

Now imagine time without end... No limit on time. Imagine life, relationships, learning, conversations, journeys, love... if time had no limits, no ending, no need to hurry... no worry that this too shall pass. What would that be like?

Living in the moment. Children seem to do be able to do it...

What is it about living in the moment?

Time doesn't matter. It is immaterial to the complete joy of living.

Time is immaterial to God.


God meets man. God becomes man. God lives with man with no time limit...

The problem with "time running out" is caused by us wanting or needing to be doing something else. I can invision this happening in heaven when I am happy with what I have already found out about a specific subject and want to move onto another one. "For the time being, I have run out of interest in this subject." Is that bad?

And I do not believe that "God is outside of time". If that were so He could not have existed "forever", as "forever" is a duration of time without a beginning, is it not? If there were such a thing as being "outside of time" or being before time existed, how long would that have been? Measuring that duration would also be "time".

Time is something God has given us, not something we have come up with. And doesn't the Bible tell us that "everything that was made" was made by God? This seems to indicate that there are "things" that God did not make. One of these "things" may be "time".