I have a suspicion that the time for the day that we have, was designed in such a way that is working elsewhere in the universe. Plants need rest as well.

What an interesting exercise in using human words and concepts to describe things (and beings) beyond human experience! Too often we tend to think of God as "Super-human", that is, "human, only better, stronger, wiser." But God is "Not-human." He (It) is something else entirely.

HEY STAN

YES I was thinking along those same lines
about time and the rest of the universe and
the other planets.....


dgrimm60

Time is a component of a measuring system used to sequence events, to compare the durations of events and the intervals between them, and to quantify the motions of objects.

Time has been a major subject of religion, philosophy, and science, but defining time in a non-controversial manner applicable to all fields of study has consistently eluded the greatest scholars.

If time was a result of sin, as has been suggested, what is the alternative?

It seems to me that time was created at least as to respect's to this world, at creation. Didn't God divide the day from the night. And set up the 7 day week which would equal 24 day periods, etc. I believe as far as this earth is concerned Eve sinned after creation, therefore the time period that we know was already part of the earth. Satan himself may have sinned in heaven before creation of this earth, but God created this earth with our cycle of time before sin enter the earth.

pk

We can observe 'time' by simply looking at the stars. The light we see is from the past, not the present. What we call 'light years' is using our measurement of time, 365 days of travel. To another orbiting body in our system it would be more or less than our 365 days. But, it could still be called a light year.

I do not see any connection between 'sin' and 'time'. One is an observable continuing event, the other a spiritual philosophy.

A number of people in this thread seem to be confused between time itself and our system of measuring time. Years, months, days, are effectively all features of our planet and moon's place in our solar system, but these are ways of measuring time, they are not time itself. Weeks have a very, very long history but don't tie to any specific astronomical cycle, which many people see as evidence for their being instituted by God. Hours (and their derived units minutes and seconds) are a convenient but human-developed way of dividing up the day into managable bites.

All of these are ways of measuring time, as a metre (which is entirely human-defined, or an Astronomical Unit, which is not, are ways of measuring length), but they are not time itself.

If our solar system was created in creation week, then these things (the natural ones) were instituted then, but if our universe had existed prior to creation week (opinion on this is very split here), then there must have been space-time to allow the universe to exist, stars to undergo the fusion process to emit light and so on. Without time, nothing happens... so a universe without time basically cannot exist - at least if it's a matter universe like this one.

Good thought provoking post. I believe that universe was here before God created this piece of it, with our earth etc. I'm not sure that time outside of our earth can be broken down. I think time has no relevance to God, as far as seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months or years are concerned. I think about the people that have died, some for thousands of years. Others just days, or so ago. When Jesus comes to get us, for them it will be like the next moment of there lives. And obviously for those alive, depending how old they are, it could many long and hard years. That's kind of what I think time is like to God.

pk

I know this post is a little out of sequence, but, then, I do come from both the other side, and the other end of the world, so your time is not my time!!!

I think we make a mistake when we apply Rev. 21:25 [referring to no night] to the whole New Earth. Reading it in context (Revelation 21:22-27) it seems to me that that is ONLY speaking of the New Jerusalem.

In the book, Great Controversy, last chapter, pp 674 - 678, we get a larger picture, where we have our country homes, complete with the sun, moon and stars.

It is worth the read!

Beryl

I think the references in Revelation to the markers of time, such as the moon, stars and sun are symbolic of a deeper meaning, which may tell us something about time, and likely should not be taken too literally. (The broader symbolism of Revelation would be a fruitful topic for discussion here, if anyone is willing to get it rolling.)

Keeping within our context in this topic, what is it about time, as we know it, that is a problem, that an earth made new would rectify? Those natural time markers identified in Revelation may give a symbolic hint...