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#251066 - 2009-06-19 21:37:26 Re: Which Bible version [Re: Dr. Rich]
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to find what is wrong with christianity. write the laws of the Lord on your heart and you will hear the voice from the source of truth. Keep reading half truth gospels if you wish.. the Lord is your shepard.. are you not listing? Does your living Lord live in the pages of a book?
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#251067 - 2009-06-19 21:43:25 Re: Which Bible version [Re: Musicman1228]
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To have multiple translation of Roman doctrine only adds to the confusion of Babylon (the mixing of words causing confusion).

When are you going to come to your God whom you claim to serve? God simplified the message he taught... keep the commandments of God For this is mans all... everything else is to identify Christ as the one who would give the knowlege of how this is done since even the Jews could not get it right and played the harlot with false God's just as the gentiles are doing today.

Jeremiah 16:19
O LORD, my strength and my fortress, My refuge in the day of affliction, The Gentiles shall come to You From the ends of the earth and say, “ Surely our fathers have inherited lies, Worthlessness and unprofitable things.” Will a man make gods for himself, Which are not gods?

By not commming to God throught the wisdom he gave to all men. The Law (pentacost) (shavot)
They all make a God of a book and writings.
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#251068 - 2009-06-19 21:47:59 Re: Which Bible version [Re: Musicman1228]
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Untill mankind can dicern why God allowed this gospel to surface in history and what it means for mankind. they will never know the truth. They know not how to keep the Law.

http://reluctant-messenger.com/essene/gospel_index.htm

http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/gospel%20of%20holy%2012.pdf

This link illustrates how to use Prophecy (God's word) as a light to the world and differing testimonies of men even within your bible.

http://www.thedeathandresurection.com/pdf/the%20death%20and%20resurrection.pdf

It's time to wake up.. the shaking is here!



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#251226 - 2009-06-20 18:12:58 Re: Which Bible version [Re: Musicman1228]
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Davar – Another Free “Scripture Study Tool”

Use It - and e-Sword Too!






Originally Posted By: Musicman1228
You can have as many Bibles as you feel you need to do a credible job of finding truth, all for free. Google E-Sword or for Mac users MacSword. There you will find numerous down-loadable Bibles, Concordances, Strong's Greek and Hebrew lexicon and other source books all for free. I also use an very easy to use interface called Bible Desktop into which you can place all this material and access it in multiple windows so you can do Biblical comparison with ease. Try it, I think you will really like it.

I have included the links:

E-Sword MacSword


Here’s Davar v. 3 - another great “Scripture Study Tool!” It can do some things e-Sword doesn’t do for you yet… Like helping you read the Aramaic Peshitta New Testament using either Arabic or Hebrew font!


Praise the Lord!




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#251250 - 2009-06-20 19:41:52 Re: Which Bible version [Re: TreeOfLife]
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Thanks, I'll get it.

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#251390 - 2009-06-21 17:11:01 Re: Which Bible version [Re: Gail]
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The vast majority of my reading and studying is through the NASB version.

However, in deeper study, I'll use my BibleWorks to pull up just about any version known to man to get to the root of a text. In English, though, the RSV, KJV, NKJV, NIV, and TEV versions get the nod.

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#251437 - 2009-06-21 23:57:59 Re: Which Bible version [Re: Gail]
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”Which Bible version…”





Originally Posted By: Gail
... are you currently using?






Dear Gail,


Answering your question directly, and in terms similar to those of Ted Oplinger’s post just above

I use which ever Bible version that, from my point of view, is best helping me perceive the underlying original writ. When the original text is not available or when it is not even known with certainty which one may be closest, then I consider the internal evidence of the extant available texts in close comparison with the reality and with the laws of nature as designed and upheld by the Creator.

For instance, I’ve been impressed that, re the Gospel of Matthew, the closest thing we have to the original is that transcript which is known as Shem Tov’s Hebrew Matthew, which I find is definitely not a translation from the Greek as has been commonly believed in the past. Re Mark, Luke, Acts, Revelation, and probably at least some of Paul’s epistles, which are more than likely also originally written in Hebrew, I use the Greek Textus Receptus while remembering always that that Greek is the translator’s best effort of accomplishing as literal a translation as possible of the text being translated, whether from the Hebrew or from an Aramaic intermediary translation.

Re the Old Testament, at one time, years ago, I used to believe that the LXX was the one closest to the original because at that time I believed that there was insufficient space of time for known dated historical events following the flood using the Masoretic text. After having studied the evidence provided by Immanuel Velikovsky in his Ages in Chaos series of books, I came to recognize that conventional ancient history has inflated the real ancient history by some 600 to 800 years that never were. In consequence of that I find that the remaining evidence points to the Masoretic text being the one closest to the original text written.

Given that I am not by far as fluent in either Greek or Hebrew as I wish I was, I use any and all translations of those texts that are available to me in a language I am more familiar with, for instance English or Swedish. My preferred English version is the Amplified English Bible because it really has a way of bringing out much more from the original languages than any of the other versions, yet, more often than not, I use KJV because of its close ties to the original by means of Strong’s numbers.

Lately, I’ve had the question raised in my mind as to whether or not the Peshitta may possibly be that intermediary Aramaic text between the original Hebrew New Testament books and the Greek Textus Receptus etc., but that question of mine I have yet to pursue before being better able to determine the answer…


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#251447 - 2009-06-22 01:11:14 Re: Which Bible version [Re: Ted Oplinger]
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Originally Posted By: Ted_Oplinger
The vast majority of my reading and studying is through the NASB version.

However, in deeper study, I'll use my BibleWorks to pull up just about any version known to man to get to the root of a text. In English, though, the RSV, KJV, NKJV, NIV, and TEV versions get the nod.



Four of the best and most literal and accurate translations of the whole Bible are:

(1) Robert Young's Literal (which basically follows the same texts as the KJV);

(2) Joseph B. Rotherham's Emphasized Bible (which follows texts similar to those followed by the NASB and RSV); (Except in a few places, this is the best, most reliable and most accurate single translation I know);

(3) King James II Bible (translated by J. P. Green, and following the same text as that followed by the KJV); and

(4) The New American Bible (Roman Catholic)-- this translation is the most faithful to the Critical Greek Text of Nestle-Aland (26th and 27th editions) and the United Bible Society (fourth edition).

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#251469 - 2009-06-22 10:52:02 Re: Which Bible version [Re: Ted Oplinger]
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Ted when you say Bible Works, what do you mean?

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#304196 - 2009-12-03 20:12:15 Re: Which Bible version [Re: Seraphim]
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Hi, I would urge extreme caution with the Clear Word. All paraphrases will reflect the theology of the writer.

The author is proceeding to destroy the Adventist pillars of faith. Worse than that, what else is he doing to God’s Word? So am I to believe Jesus opens this seal and watches Himself oppose His own truth?

Here's what Revelation 6:1,2 of the Clear Word Bible says:

1. After the chorus had ended, I saw the Lamb break all the seals and unscroll the scroll. As He revealed the events of the first seal, I heard the first of the four living beings say to me in a voice that sounded like thunder, "Come! See the controversy over giving the gospel!"

2. I looked to where he was pointing and saw a galloping white horse.
The rider on it had a bow in his hand and arrows strapped to his back.
He was allowed to wear a victory wreath on his head and galloped into the future bent on stopping the gospel and overcoming the people of God. This is the first phase of the history of opposition to the gospel.

This is incorrect, white in the Bible always represents God, and the good and the right.

The white horse represents the early Christan dispensation as the early church went forward to conquer victoriously.
Here is the KJV:

Rev 6:1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
Rev 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.


Rev 22:19 and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book. God Bless, Steve
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